Friday 13 January 2012

Tangerine Tiger x Crystal

Yesterday was horrid but got a ton of stuff done and now onto new, bigger and better things. Whats most important to me is the customer and keeping the hobby alive.

I wasn't going to report this until I could see if the patterns and colorations could be stabalized and the blacks thickened. A friend of mine whom did not have enough space to put shrimp but loved the tangerine tigers decided to put it with his crystals. Lucky for him he had an unexpected crossing and he brought over and gave me this:
Wayne Lam's F1


Here are a few pictures of SS grade crystal x tangerine tiger enjoy =)

A crossing from my own projects.
Some of the white peering through but not what i'm looking for.
One of the younger hybrids
There are F1's and F2's in this tank. What I want to try to do is setup another series of crossings: F1 x F1 , F1 x CRS SS. F1 x tangerine. Hopefully that would tell me a bit more about the genetics and which traits are dominant and which recessive so I can see which traits can be manipulated.
What I've also noticed is when tangerine x CRS SS, it gives off a hybrid with tangerine colors but the markings of a crystal. What I am wanting to do and am trying out is CRS S grade x tangerine tiger whether it would produce a hybrid with S grade patterns. If the patterns can be stabalized and thickened a new line of shrimps can be bred from the crossings but re-selectively bred.

Here's a preview of another crossing I am working on enjoy!



11 comments:

  1. very nice with the hybrids. Look like tibee's right now but a lot of crystal crosses look like that in F1.

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    1. I agree Tibees do have similar patterns but what I'm most intersted in is can these patterns actually be manipulated. Whether crossing the SS grade crystal was by chance to get a similar SS grade pattern. So i'm crossing it with S grade as well. 2 soon to be impregnated females on the way. Saddles are coming down.

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    2. There is some neat tibee crosses out there. This is one of my fav's from shrimp now.

      http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg9/scaled.php?server=9&filename=img3093dg.jpg&res=medium

      I actually like tigers. I have a tank of wild caught ones and have seen some orange looking babies with no stripes. I'm not sure if they stripes develop later or not or if they will stay orange since the wild ones especially seem to be change lots of colors. I have some with blue tints, dark chocolate brown, the orange babies now, and when they get berried they darken up so brown. I even have 1 or 2 that get the neocardina type "racing stripe" down the back. Neat shrimp though. Sadly, mine were gypsy shrimp and got moved around a lot and they kept loosing their eggs on the move and were either in a low pH or high pH tank and dropped them, etc, so now they are in their own tank with a 7pH and i have 3 berried moms about ready to pop and the 2 orange babies that made it through all the moves.

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    3. lol, I've got confirmation that red tigers exist in the wild in large quantities. So I wouldn't be surprised about the orange.

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  2. The TT in the 2nd pic looks like it has a 'flower' pattern on its head ;)

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  3. =P it does doesn't it. But i'm not gonna lie. I'm pretty sure its just the black pigment not showing enough. If you look at stressed CBS they would look the same. however since you brought the point up. I believe crown pattern can be achieved as I've seen it start popping a spade pattern on the head that I think can detach and become a crown. Only problem is the body areas still has black markings. so It would actually be a SSS+ grade.

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  4. A TT crown would be awesome if it can be stabilized!

    What are you hoping to achieve with btoe cross? Or just seeing what will happen?

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    1. just an experiment. Don't know what to expect just yet =)

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  5. Frank version is going to come soon hahhhaha

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  6. any updates on the crosses yet? ^^

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  7. well, i have some shrimplets and it may be a bit early to tell for sure or not, but it looks like mine are reversed from how yours look, namely instead of a black hino/no entry, it's white. Would be from a CRS(Female)x TT(Male) cross, but yeah, it's a bit early to tell for sure. Will post again with pics here in a month or two if i'm right..

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